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Post by Kathulos on Feb 16, 2024 15:57:40 GMT
Thank you for the information. Been working, off and on, with warriors of the Red Planet, to create a unified setting. One that will merge an intersection with Gunslinger, WotRP, and a hollow earth, I'm bouncing around in the back of my mind.
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Post by Gary B on Feb 25, 2024 19:15:18 GMT
This project is nearly two years past the kickstarter projected date...........
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Post by Night Owl on Feb 28, 2024 2:46:00 GMT
This project is nearly two years past the kickstarter projected date........... Backers asked for quality over quickness, and we promised really good art. We're making it the best we can. However, "Better is the enemy of done" as one of our favorite designers says, so we're getting it done. Soon. Cheers, Night Owl
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Post by landru on Apr 20, 2024 12:53:06 GMT
I don't want to be presumptuous and call me a jerk if you want to (It's okay, I won't take it personally) but I would humbly suggest that for any future kickstarters, your team needs to find a balance between the "best we can make it" and a "reasonable time frame."
I'm not sure I would have signed up for this had I known that I still wouldn't have the book two years later. I'm confident that you guys will fulfill. That's not a concern for me but it's a long time to wait.
Please consider this to be constructive criticism
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Post by Night Owl on May 6, 2024 12:12:43 GMT
Incredible progress! We're well on our way to wrapping Gunslinger up. Here is where everything stands: Writing and editing are complete. Much thanks to those who participated in the review and gave us feedback and caught some typos. The core rulebook has been complete for sometime now. Though I reread it everyday and always find some little phrasing to tighten up. This is normal and happens all the way up till the moment I hit send to the printers. You can never reread it too many times. Maps are done (whew)! Horse colors! So I added a page in the back that describes colors for your basic mounts with full color illos. This is unique to the Kickstarter edition. Still working on the art. I peg it at 90% complete. I tried to create a blend of action, adventure, and spontaneity. Those who backed the Artist Edition Tier will be getting a well crafted original pen and ink drawing. The full rulebook is up on DriveThru and has been given to all backers, it will be updated with final art when that's done. Physical books will be shipped then. What's left? The included adventure: On The Arizona Hills is nearly done, it got a little bigger than expected, it is chock full of locations, NPC's, and opportunities for adventure, enough to keep your player's entertained for quite some time. The question you all want to know; when will it be shipped? I keep blowing past the dates as the project kept getting more ambitious than intended, and I kept wanting to make it better (a friend once told me "better is the enemy of done!" its true). I've worked on this game virtually everyday but Sundays since the Kickstarter closed, it has been a great lesson in what to do and not do! If I do another KS I'll be sure the project is 100% done first so I can hit send to printers the moment the crowdfunding finishes. Ok, that date? June. It will be done, shipped, in June this year. Happy trails pardner.
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Post by Night Owl on May 6, 2024 12:13:51 GMT
I don't want to be presumptuous and call me a jerk if you want to (It's okay, I won't take it personally) but I would humbly suggest that for any future kickstarters, your team needs to find a balance between the "best we can make it" and a "reasonable time frame." I'm not sure I would have signed up for this had I known that I still wouldn't have the book two years later. I'm confident that you guys will fulfill. That's not a concern for me but it's a long time to wait. Please consider this to be constructive criticism Yes, I posted that on my monitor to remind me. Every day. Thank you.
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Post by landru on Jun 5, 2024 21:49:35 GMT
It's June
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Post by Night Owl on Jun 10, 2024 22:00:54 GMT
I don't want to be presumptuous and call me a jerk if you want to (It's okay, I won't take it personally) but I would humbly suggest that for any future kickstarters, your team needs to find a balance between the "best we can make it" and a "reasonable time frame." June is the month Gunslinger goes to press. Come hell or high water it is getting finished. So I imagine I'll have to do a postmortem at some point to pinpoint why it took so long and how to make future projects more efficient. Looking at the art folder there are over 200 art assets. Over...two...hundred...art...assets.This book has been a one man operation, I did have some help editing and playtesting, but the writing, design, graphics, layout, and art are all my responsibility. Just back of the envelope math if each art asset took 4-6 hours to make (some took a lot more, a few took less). That is 1200 hours of work. That doesn't include the writing, editing, playtesting, research, and design. This project got to be a little ridiculous. I thought it was going to be a quick little OSR western. If I had been smart about it that is what Gunslinger would have been, but nope. The book itself is clocking in at 134 pages. The kickstarter version is a little longer because it includes a prelude chapter to the Princess of the Red Planet adventure. By RPG standards 134 pages isn't huge, but note that it is the cream of the research and playtest efforts. Not a lot of drivel in it, like most RPG's have. In the end nobody cares how long something took to make. The product stands or falls on its own. All I can say is I did my best on it. This month, June, the book goes to press. Fin. Link to full post and art..
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Post by landru on Jun 15, 2024 16:45:10 GMT
Great news. Looking forward to it.
I've never produced anything on Kickstarter. I've only backed projects so maybe I don't know what the hell I'm talking about but the projects I feel best about are the ones where the product is essentially completed before the KS begins.
For example, I backed this one
When funding was completed, the creator sent out an update stating the following, "Each of these books has been written, edited, and all art is in. We are working on layout now, and then it's off to the printers."
Based on what I've seen, this is the best way to do it. Have the work completed so that when the funding is secured, it's off to the printers right away. Of course, this doesn't take into account any stretch goals but I still think it's the best way to do it.
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Post by Night Owl on Jun 19, 2024 21:47:04 GMT
I've never produced anything on Kickstarter. I've only backed projects so maybe I don't know what the hell I'm talking about but the projects I feel best about are the ones where the product is essentially completed before the KS begins. Kickstarter was founded in order to fund projects so they could be developed. Over time Kickstarter has evolved into a pre-order platform for products already made. There are still many, many, successful kickstarters that are used for funding production, but over time customer expectations, especially for things like this, has changed. So, I agree. If I ever do another Kickstarter it will be for something 100% complete so that the moment the KS successfully funds and ends all I have to do is push the button for the printing to begin, so backers will get their book within weeks. I will say, Gunslinger was 90% done when the KS launched. What happened was feature creep. It is 3 times the size, content, and scope of the original book.
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Post by landru on Jun 21, 2024 10:59:12 GMT
Having done a little work in project management, I know all about creep. It can be a killer.
Anyway, congrats on crossing the finish line. Can't wait to get it.
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Post by Night Owl on Jun 24, 2024 17:00:00 GMT
This week Gunslinger goes to press! So, I'll post a little preview of final art and text each day this week. Let's start with our main character, the Gunslinger. I like to think of him as the "Paladin" of the game. This will be your last chance to get the Gunslinger RPG (PDF) at the "Beta Edition" rate, once the full final version is posted it will go up to regular price. www.drivethrurpg.com/en/product/435804/gunslinger-roleplaying-gameFull rez version
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Post by Night Owl on Jun 25, 2024 19:58:05 GMT
Gunslinger Week: CrittersAnother preview of the final text and art from the Gunslinger RPG. I mentioned previously how much art went into the making of this game, well a huge amount of that went into the critters section. During research for the setting of the 1800's Arizona Territory I came across quite a few interesting legends. Many of these made it into the book, with some modification to make them useful for your own wild west (with a bit of strange science!) campaign milieu. Full rez image here: dungeoneering.blogspot.com/2024/06/gunslinger-week-critters.html
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Post by Night Owl on Jun 27, 2024 3:53:20 GMT
Strange ScienceOne of the features of Gunslinger is Strange Science. To those familiar with Gamma World (or the classic Expedition to the Barrier Peaks) you'll recall how exciting it was to find some weird unknown piece of technology and trying to figure out how it works. Sometimes to great effect, and other times to disaster! And since Gunslinger doesn't have magic* this is the closest thing to it. As Arthur C. Clarke famously said "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." That is certainly true in the Arizona Territory in the 1800's where strange science is involved. For those fans of the genre, there are a lot of Easter Eggs in here I'm sure you'll appreciate. Closing in on those last little details to send Gunslinger to press this week. *There is a "Mythic West" appendix in the back for those who want a little supernatural in their campaign.Link to full rez image here.
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Post by Night Owl on Jun 27, 2024 22:53:06 GMT
Gunslinger Preview - Apache WarsOne of the most fascinating chapters in American history is the Apache wars that went on for decades in the Arizona territory. Many of the most legendary figures of the West, like Geronimo, were made famous during this. War always makes for a dramatic backdrop in a story. And Edgar Rice Burroughs was there for the tail end of this, he penned a couple of novels set amid the Apache Wars (Apache Devil and The War Chief) which were vital reading material to help in creating Gunslinger. They are remarkably sympathetic to the Apache at a time they were portrayed negatively in media. link to full rez version
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